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Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:17 am

Post up your reviews of aftermarket mirrors here, pics and comments. If you can, post a link to where you can buy them from.

:thumbdown:// :thumbsup: Clubman Bar End Mirrors
http://www.ebay.com/itm/YAMAHA-KAWASAKI ... 846wt_1396

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They looked fine, but they shook quite a bit (partly the fault of my handlebars, partly looseness in the mirror itself) which blurred the view and they rattled a bit. The mirror is real glass, and I broke it trying to tighten up the bolt that holds the glass in an attempt to stop the rattling. So I ran with just 1 for a while, then the 1 I had fell off the handlebar while riding and broke. I didn't even turn around to pick it up.

I found myself very nervous to tighten the cheap bolts and components as tightly as was necessary to not be loose, and in the end, they failed after a few months. Also, everything rusted pretty quickly.

UPDATE: I ended up getting another set of these bar end mirrors, and I had much better luck this time. This new set is a little different than the old set; the new ones don't have a screw holding in the mirror (the picture above looks like the new ones, not the old ones). I don't have any shake problems anymore, and the mirror is still glass and is slightly convex. They do drift even though they are tightened as much as I am comfortable with. I plan on dripping some superglue on the plastic pivot balls, or knurling the aluminum clamps a little bit to make them grip better, but even when they drift, I can still see behind me thanks to the convex-ity of the mirrors. So the updated mirrors I give a thumbs up to :thumbsup: BTW, I paid $13 shipped for the set. I see the link above is now around $20, so shop around and you may be able to get a better deal.

:thumbdown: KOSO GT Diamond Mirrors
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-KOSO-GT-Dia ... 4840703b92

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They look great, but are not very good quality. The ball joint is tensioned by a ring nut that requires a special spanner they send you with the kit, but my spanner broke. I kludged it to try to tighten the ball joint enough so that the mirror didn't turn on it's own at highway speed, and I ended up stripping out the perimeter threads on the ball-joint socket. The threads are plastic, and the tolerance on them is terrible, because the threads on the ring nut did not get full engagement in the socket to begin with, so they just kept skipping a thread because the housing side thread diameter is too big.

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I requested a new set from the seller due to the broken tool and the bad threads, and they sent me a new set with a new tool in a timely manner. I found that the new set had an aluminum ring nut, whereas the first set had a plastic ring nut. The Al nut worked better, but I still didn't feel good about tightening it into the plastic threads of the mirror housing tight enough to prevent drift. Eventually I just used threadlock and tightened it close enough and left it. It has been ok for a while, but it still drifts on the highway. Also, the up/down adjustment is done by a bolt at the elbow of the shaft, but it doesn't work very well (poor toleranceing again) and one of my mirrors has a couple mm's of up and down shake, which makes the highway view very blurry. I put threadlock in there and it fixed it for a while, but now it is shaking again.

All-in-all, I don't recommend them, and I am looking for a new set.


Here are some that I am looking at now:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIVERSAL-MOTOR ... 738wt_1396

They look simple, so hopefully they won't break as easily, but I can't tell if the mirror is adjustable. I would think it has to be, but I don't see any adjustment.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOTORCYCLE-BAR- ... 017wt_1396

Again, they look simple, and less likely to break, but I am not sure about the style. I think I would likely turn the mirror 180° from the way it is in the picture so that it is biased outwards instead of inwards. Auction is for 1 mirror only, not a set of 2.


I would love to see what other mirrors you guys are running and if you like them. I am getting very doubtful that any of these chinese knock-off mirrors will be viable, but if I am going to drop the money for US made ones (which seem to be super expensive), then I definitely want some reviews of them first.
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Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:41 pm

i have a set of the 3rd link and with the only loosening up once they are really good mirrors, great visibility and positioning options. just a little more vibration in the handle bars around 4500rpms. overall a good set of mirrors.
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Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:17 pm

I tried some cheapy $15 ebay mirrors, and got what I paid for. Featherweight, buzzy, impossible to see with.

Then I spent some more on these Bikemaster Candy Drop mirrors. http://www.powersportsuperstore.com/Bik ... lick=35177

They are basically as vibration resistant as the stock mirrors. Stock are plastic with a metal weight inside, and these are all metal and just about identically weighted. They look better in my opinion.
There are two overlapping drawbacks that, if you critically rely on your mirrors for instant information gathering, they might not be for you. The mirror is a little less convex than stock, and they sit a bit lower and more inboard. This somewhat reduces range of vision, and one needs a little bit of body/shoulder-shifting to get a good view behind/beside you. Angling them further back and adding those tiny rectangular blind-spot mirrors does help, but "two-in-one" mirrors requires a hair more time for the brain to process the different views.
But, because of the reduced convex (objects closer than they appear) the image is more accurate in terms of apparent distance of objects.
The above description may have come off strongly, but they are fairly mild. The appearance improvement is substantial, and the drawbacks are adapted to fairly easily.


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Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:28 pm

Thanks for the reviews. Those candy drop mirrors look pretty good, and that site you linked has tons of mirrors. I like the version of those with the integrated turn signals; that could allow me to eliminate the stock signals. I found a couple other ones there that I like pretty well too. I will have to try one or two of them and see how I like them.

I definitely understand what you mean about the visibility, but those appear to be way farther out to the sides than mine. I can't imagine they have worse visibility than mine, so they should be pretty easy to adapt to.

Do you get any drift at highway speed?

EDIT: Actually, it looks like the seller in that link has some problems, so buyer beware...
http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Po ... Superstore
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Sun Dec 25, 2011 6:14 pm

Bikemaster's all aluminum (CNC'd) mirrors are outstanding quality and worth the money :thumbsup: . I'm using a set of their Lined Oval mirrors which are similar to the Candydrop mirrors above. You can get them in black, chrome or annodized gold. They're a bit tight to adjust but once set, they don't vibrate, stay set, and are sized perfectly to actually see what's behind me. Ignore my brother peering out from behind them!

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Sun Dec 25, 2011 8:13 pm

Oooo, :clap: Radare's looks better-functioning in terms of "drift"... The stock mirrors have quite a bit of leverage for the wind to act upon; large surface area and stalk in one corner. The Candy Drops have a really nice means of tightening the ball mount with a standard wrench. The surface area is less, so there's less wind leverage, but the mount is still all the way on one end. Radare's is at about a quarter the way in, which seems like it should move less.
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Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:17 pm

Though these look like similar frames to the GT Mirrors posted in the first post, I'm curious if anyone has seen or heard of these?

They're listed as "CNC aluminum billet black mirrors fit Yamaha Diverson Seca II XJ600X blue lens"
I guess they're made buy a company called "Magazi"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/250937781316?ss ... 1423.l2649

At $66+ it's a pricey gamble.

Also, I saw the other post about deadening or dampening the handle bars with metal shavings from rotor and drum turning machines, I'm curious if that may help with these aftermarket mirrors. I may have to end up doing some testing. :grins:
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Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:35 pm

draco751 wrote:Though these look like similar frames to the GT Mirrors posted in the first post, I'm curious if anyone has seen or heard of these?

They're listed as "CNC aluminum billet black mirrors fit Yamaha Diverson Seca II XJ600X blue lens"
I guess they're made buy a company called "Magazi"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/250937781316?ss ... 1423.l2649

At $66+ it's a pricey gamble.

Also, I saw the other post about deadening or dampening the handle bars with metal shavings from rotor and drum turning machines, I'm curious if that may help with these aftermarket mirrors. I may have to end up doing some testing. :grins:
I don't know anything about those, but I do know that I would never pay $66 for an ebay item shipping from Asia unless it's from Japan.

I thought about drilling a hole in the mirror section and filling it with weight, but I realized that with the highway drift I have, the joints would never be able to hold up the added weight of the added ballast.
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Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:46 pm

Nelsonmd wrote: I don't know anything about those, but I do know that I would never pay $66 for an ebay item shipping from Asia unless it's from Japan.
Good point actually... Dually noted. :not worthy:
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Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:52 pm

I just ordered these:
http://www.bikebandit.com/emgo-yamaha-d ... sal-mirror

This may be a silly question, but something made me think that Yamaha was unique having right and left handed threads on their mirrors. Is that true, or am I misguided and nearly any bar mounted after market mirrors should work for the Seca?
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